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Osprey Publishing, 2006. There is hope. You may get both in the same ambush. WEAPONS OF THE REVOLUTION. Wait, what? The Mexican government moved in to quell violence between vigilantes and a drug cartel, and witnesses say several unarmed civilians were killed in an early Tuesday confrontation. When Mexico won its independence from Spain, the fledgling country found itself with a large supply of Spanish weapons. The executions need to be numerous, brutal, public and widely publicized for the public to start regaining any trust in the government. ——————- This is what the 2nd Amendment is all about. The Mexican Revolution was brought on by, among other factors, tremendous disagreement among the Mexican people over the dictatorship of President Porfirio Díaz, who, all told, stayed in office for thirty one years.During that span, power was concentrated in the hands of a select few; the people had no power to express their opinions or select their public officials. Mexican government officials have historically been corrupt but they took it too far. There are a total of [ 78 ] Mexico Small Arms List (Current and Former Types) entries in the Military Factory. Put us to shame and give us something to strive towards!!! 2 Answers. I truly hope Obama is taking careful note of how societies can deal with tyranny if pushed too far. (/sarcasm). The entire system is rotten from top to bottom, so toss it out. Not out of some “pointless war” point of view, but from a historical viewpoint that freedom won is generally more cherished than freedom given. Brutal to show the cartels that the gloves are off and the brutality of the cartels will be met with the same or more. “They’re […] bringing out guns that have been squirreled away for years, hidden from the government ever since the federales turned their back on their citizens’ Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.”. The people of Mexico need to follow the lead of freedom fighters in Egypt! Period. PRIVACY POLICY. I eagerly await my CCW permit, and am trying to decide if my next purchase should be a Mini-14 or an AR pistol. Being a leader tended to be very bad for your health. I’m guessing the people that call them vigilantes are leftist, anti-gun, pro-government losers and those that call them militia are patriots. Still have questions? Two of largest sources of income are 1) Drugs 2) money sent back from the US from scared ex-patriots. Highly disputed and no contemporary text during the constitutional convention to validate the claim. We haven’t picked a winner since WWII. Pinche gobierno curropto finalmente esta al punto a fallar. This came in under the radar and these thugs aren’t use to resistance. And I repeatedly notice on the “Borderland Beat” blog the following: The cartel photos feature lots of very young guys. The Mexican Revolution quickly turned into a brutal, full-on civil war that left no part of the country untouched, drawing in poor farmers in a fight against wealthy landowners. Get your answers by asking now. God’s speed Mexico!!!! They’re capturing firearms from the cartels, police and military and bringing out guns that have been squirreled away for years, hidden from the government ever since the federales turned their back on their citizens’ Constitutional right to keep and bear arms. The middle f’ing up both sides majorly. These are tools of modern warfare. Looks like a militia is necessary for the security of a free state after all. Further, representational and constitutional government was well understood by european contemporaries. He said 2 words to me……”Bad Government.” I never forgot that. A free Mexico, espoused in liberty, is good for Mexicans and good for the continent. But at San Jacinto, Texian and Mexican soldiers used weapons of the old school — gripping wood and iron as they held the gaze of the enemy’s eyes. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo), “Community police” vigilante Rene Zeferino rides in the back of a pickup as his unit patrols the streets of Ayutla de los Libres, Guerrero state, Mexico. I bet the Knights Templar are crapping their pants. I can see pride in their eyes overwhelming the fear. Pretty good trigger finger discipline, all things considered. While this was a British weapon, it was used heavily by the American Colonists. Thousands of so-called “vigilantes” have taken control of areas of extreme lawlessness, rejecting the federal government’s “protection.” The Mexican citizen militia – for that is what it is – have armed themselves with whatever comes to hand. Ambush and then strip the bodies of the cartel or federales. It’s much easier to win a revolution than it is to stop fighting. There’s something really powerful going on. I’m cynical enough to believe that when (not if) the US government meddles in the situation, it will to prop up the corrupt government and military, because the types of silk pantywaists that graduate from Ivy League schools and go into government like to have “order.” It doesn’t matter if it is corrupt and oppressive order, they just like predictability. dorioncanada. Their GDP would be destroyed if the cartels disappeared. The following weapons were used in the film A Bullet for the General: The Federales and later Constitutionalist forces made … guns. Guns of the Mexican revolucionarios. Ask Question Yes you can, most of the ones I found on google were sea slugs. Mexico is a nation in the North American continent. This was a large caliber gun with a short twenty-two inch barrel. IMODIUM in the ruling class neighborhoods just went up to 1000 pesos a pill. Government loses the rest of their credibility, albeit at a slower rate than the next option…. The Mexican military also bought quantities of the 7mm Arisaka rifle from Japan. I don’t think that this will happen, and as a result I think we’re quickly approaching a point where the government of Mexico could actually fail. The Mexican Revolution was an outbreak of unrest that happened because of discontent among the lower social classes such as peasants with the tyrannical rule of General Ignacio Sanchez.The revolution began in the Mexico province of Nuevo Paraiso and was led by Abraham Reyes, who claimed he would improve the conditions of the workers and restore Mexico in to a democracy run by the people. Could be an A5 or the Remington copy model 11 or the savage varient. I have a LOT of the Osprey “Men at … 1. In October 1911 federal forces fighting for the Francisco I. Madero administration prepared to go south and fight the persistent Zapatista rebels. They could start with the Constitution of the Iroquois Federation; ours is based upon it, in part. I love it. The British frequently referred to these weapons as carbines because they were of carbine bore (.65 caliber). So these older guys who have had it with the cozy government/cartel partnership are the worst fear of the Mexican gov’t. Lv 4. ***DO NOT*** TRUST THE MEXICAN GOV’T!!! First up, some machine guns for the Federales. Free Online Library: Guns of the Mexican revolution: revolutions devour their own, and nowhere was that more true than in Mexico. Is what I imagine the guy saying before whopping someones ass. Mexico did not arm its Cazadores (light infantry) with the standard infantry musket. Long Land Pattern "Brown Bess" musket and bayonet, used by both sides in the American Revolutionary War. Real-time intelligence. 2. We need to bring back manufacturing jobs to the US and Mexico. There you go. You can get a glimpse of some of them above, and see where they were found by zooming in to the map above. Reminds me of Chicago. 0 1. Tell me again how our government in the United States ISN’T hoarding ammo in fear of insurrection….tell me that lie again!! You just described the movie, “ANTS”. So, will they appoint some generalissimo and start the cycle all over again, or might there be a possibility that they might adopt something like the Constitution? There’s a theme: Thugs recruit the young because they are…recruitable, reckless and hell bent on impressing their peers, and possessed of no reluctance to be violent. Muskets, rifles, pistols, colt revolvers, bayonets, swords and artillery pieces were all used against the Mexican forces. They’re capturing firearms from the cartels, police […] The militias aren’t just mere rabble now – from the stuff I’m reading, they’re acquiring significant arms in significant numbers, and the military won’t find them a pushover any more. 3. Smart bombs. rifles, horse drawn artillery. DON’T GIVE THE GOV’T SUS ARMAS. There is no consensus among scholars regarding the demographic impact of the Mexican revolution or its components. he Mexican Revolution (Revolución Mexicana) 1910 -1920Time Line of the Mexican Revolution The Revolution from 1910 -20 was very devastating to Mexico. An INCREDIBLE plethora of weapons, both famous and obscure was used, from the 7x57mm Mauser rifle to the 8mm Pieper revolving carbine. The government loses the rest of their meager credibility in months. In fact, during the period 1913-15, Mexico was one of Wilson's main foreign policy concerns, and after June 1914 it was second only to the war in Europe. The Mexican Revolution was the pre-WWI equivalent of the Gran Chaco and Spanish Civil Wars. Fed up with police corruption and drug gang violence, a number of communities in the southern Mexican state of Guerrero and neighboring states have formed citizen police groups. They forgot they are outnumbered 1000 to 1 and that a pissed off citizenry when finally provoked enough will storm over them like ants over a melting M&M. For the moment, though, it’s sad to see that is has come to this but I am cautiously optimistic at seeing people literally fighting for their homes and livelihoods. In 1888 the Mexican government purchased 100 Model 1883 Hotchkiss rifles from Winchester. American weapons [edit | edit source] Brown Bess [edit | edit source]. Armed men belonging to the Self-Defense Council of Michoacan, (CAM), stands guard at checkpoint at the entrance of Antunez, Mexico, Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2014. “If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. It was popular with traders and hunters and was used as a presentation weapon for Indian chiefs. The only way I see for the government to recoup credibility is to start ferreting out the cartel informants and employees in the government, military and police, and summarily executing them in public. The United States and Germany intervened, throwing their heft behind leaders that they thought would support their interests in Mexico, and the war only grew worse. Yet. A grassroots revolution that overthrows a corrupt government isn’t tidy or orderly. 1 decade ago. The Mexican Revolution (Spanish: Revolución Mexicana) was a major revolution, including a sequence of armed struggles, lasting roughly from 1910 to 1920, that transformed Mexican culture and government.Its outbreak in 1910 resulted from the increasing unpopularity of the 31-year-long regime of Porfirio Díaz and the regime's failure to find a controlled solution to presidential succession. The government can go after the cartels in a really meaningful way. I wouldn’t be opposed to dropping equipment over the towns with militias. 1. It’s overdue. Then after the government cleans ranks, they could attain some success in going after the cartels. “Vigilante” is what people call others who have a necessity to take care of their own problems, because those who should be taking care of it, aren’t. Don’t eff with the good people of Mexico. Remote-control aircraft. Of course we will. well, lots of smile weapon as the Boer war and the Russia-Japan war. It was the first army to adopt (1908) and use (1910) a self-loading rifle, the Mondragón rifle.The Mexican Army has an active duty force of 183,562 with 76,000 men and women of military service age (2015 est. Heavy weapons such as machine guns, artillery, and cannons were important in the Mexican Revolution, particularly in the north, where battles were generally fought in open spaces. Men who have something to fight for with shotgun are scarier than men who hide in the barracks with M16s. Unfortunately, Chicago doesn’t have enough old guys with firearms to put up a fight. It’s obvious. The Fusil fin was a long-barreled .65 caliber or larger gun. Esa tierra estaba robado de la gente indegina, y despues Guatemala (The second best country behind the US of course, they let tourists pack heat). “Take down a cartel member, upgrade your weapon.”. Machine guns played an important part in the revolution. Viva Mexican freedom fighters! Favorite Answer. ©COPYRIGHT 2020, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Mexican Revolution - support weapons Back to some painting this week and the Mexican Revolution project. MORE. Also, realize the Gov’t doesn’t want to get rid of the cartels (especially PRI). After Benito Juárez's death in 1872, Porfirio Díaz took over as Mexico's leader. I don’t suppose I will be hearing from my president on how we need to arm and supply these “freedom fighters”?…no, didn’t think so. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo), As we reported earlier, Mexico is in the throes of a revolution. I am concerned that our government will prop up theirs and they’ll go after the “vigilantes.”. Mexican Revolution (1910–20), a long bloody struggle among several factions in constantly shifting alliances which resulted ultimately in the end of the 30-year dictatorship in Mexico and the establishment of a constitutional republic. My only prayer is that the U.S. stays the hell out of this fight. Damn, the Mexicans are showing us how it’s done! By Philip S. Jowett, A.M. De Quesada, and Stephen Walsh. I believe that when fired from a Mexican shotgun, they are known as slogas. I was also impressed by that. 0 0. When it comes to perversion, CNN is the expert. We’re already quite, quite involved. Aside from some poor trigger discipline it seems that they’re fairly well-regulated as well.. Here are photos of some of those citizens who have taken up arms to protect themselves and their families. Drag out every elected official, cartel member, government bureaucrat, federale and member of the Army and execute them all… the whole stinking lot of them. Numerous because everyone knows how widely compromised the government/military/police are. An armed man belonging to the Self-Defense Council of Michoacan, (CAM), stands guard at checkpoint at the entrance of Antunez, Mexico. I don’t disagree with a single thing you said. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo), A man belonging to the Self-Defense Council of Michacan, (CAM), holds up his gun during an operation to flush out alleged members of the Knights Templar drug cartel from the town of Nueva Italia, Mexico. what weapons were used during the mexican revolution?? Not perfect, but a damn sight better than most other groups we’ve seen. Their gov’t (usually the PRI – “Party of the Institutionalized Revolution”) does not want anyone else fomenting a non-institutionalized revolution. A determined and ruthless man with a shotgun can get himself an AK and a chrome plated 1911. It will be bloody and U.S. military intervention would most definitely save the lives of Mexican civilians but I do believe the end result will be a much more stable (and free) government than if we marched in and handed the revolutionaries the keys. The line between the government and organized crime no longer exists. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.” – Winston Churchill, Despues 20 anos Las Zapatistas vivan! The Mexican Revolution broke out in 1910 when the decades-old rule of President Porfirio Díaz was challenged by Francisco I. Madero, a reformist writer and politician.When Díaz refused to allow clean elections, Madero's calls for revolution were answered by Emiliano Zapata in the south, and Pascual Orozco and Pancho Villa in the north. Also remember the DEA helped the Sinaloa cartel launder more than 250 Billion dollars through HSBC….. Imagine what the same man can get with the AK and 1911, especially if he has like-minded friends. The Brown Bess muzzle-loading smoothbore musket was one of the most commonly used weapons in the American Revolution. I’m loving it. They can do nothing. Not only do they send US dollar remittances back to their families in Mexico, they represent the “revolutionary class” in Mexico. The government cracks down on the self defense groups. Your country is in desparate need of a purge, and righteth soon. Review the events that led to the showdown at San Jacinto, as well as a blow-by-blow account of the battle. The trouble is, this position merely validates the self defense group’s point: the government will do nothing to protect the law abiding and innocent. During Mexico’s Revolution of 1910, the rebel forces fought for their freedom with a vast variety of firearms that ran the gamut from blackpowder muzzleloaders and single-shot cartridge rifles to then modern lever-action and bolt-action repeaters-even machine guns. Díaz began his tenure as president in 1876 and ruled until May 1911 when Francisco I. Madero succeeded him, taking office in November.Díaz's regime is remembered for the advances he brought in industry and modernization, at the expense of human rights and liberal reforms. Pages 13-17. Mini for practicality, or AR pistol to piss off the antis…. Thousands of so-called “vigilantes” have taken control of areas of extreme lawlessness, rejecting the federal government’s “protection.”. I’d inject french revolution style change into Mexico in a second. What would you rather have: A mexican made XYZ, or a Chinese XYZ…… Pretty easy if you ask me. Weapons: Small Arms: “Military revolvers and semi-automatic pistols used during the Mexican Revolution included a large number of Smith & Wesson revolvers in original and foreign copy forms purchased by the Mexican government in the 1870s. Table 1 summarizes the distinct scenarios proposed by nine specialists. There may even be, a worse case. But at San Jacinto, Texian and Mexican soldiers used weapons of the old school — gripping wood and iron as they held the gaze of the enemy’s eyes. America's weapons far outdid Mexico's in their technology and efficiency. Now where the heck did you get such a fool idea? Remote-control aircraft. In those days, Mexico was often called a machine gun seller’s paradise, and the Revolutionary era government used a variety of the automatic weapons, mostly the 1896 Hotchkiss gun in 7mm, later, the 7mm Browning model 1919, the 7mm Colt Automatic Gun “Potato Digger” of 1895, plus the Model 1911 Madsen machine gun. (AP Photo/Eduardo Verdugo), Members of a FUPCEG vigilante group patrol in Xaltianguis, Guerrero state, Mexico. The Mexican Revolution 1910-20. So poetically just!! It … When you’re done, draft a new constitution based on ours but address the loopholes that have allowed U.S. leaders to undermine it. This is what the phrase “a well regulated militia” is referring to. Díaz's rule from 1876 to 1911 has be… I’m thinking that every cartel member taken down is a source of supply. Um, excuse me but CNN said insurrectionism was perverted. This five-shot weapon is very much like the standard Japanese model of 1899, and was used through the 1920s. Preki. We’re just arming the bad guys. Do you have a cannonball that needs a new home? I hope the U.S. government is taking note. WORLD FAMOUS CORRUPTION ON ALL LEVELS! COPYRIGHT © 2020 SAN JACINTO MUSEUM OF HISTORY. The rapid spread of the self-defense groups, and the widespread backing they’re receiving from the public is going to put the Mexican government into a very serious bind, very soon. These are the people whom we should be arming fast and furiously. (AFAIK, they don’t have “constitutional rights” at the moment, right?). Answer Save. A Bullet for the General (original title El Chuncho, quién sabe? The heavily armed vigilante force took over the town in the Mexican state of Guerrero last month by driving out a rival band, blowing up a car with gas cylinders and cutting up the body of one of two fallen foes. Use at the Alamo but i did recently watch an interesting animated documentary about a hispanic truck. 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